Field OS 2713 2100, Longcliff Hill, Old Dalby
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Applicant: HSSP Architects Limited
Location: Field
OS 2713 2100, Longcliff Hill, Old Dalby
Proposal: Residential
development on land off Longcliff Hill, Old Dalby
that currently benefits from 3 outline planning approvals – 16/00911/OUT,
16/00184/OUT, 17/00743/OUT
(a) The Development Manager stated that:
The application
before you is a full planning application for 36 dwellings; the application was
differed at last months planning committee in order to seek clarification of
issues regarding density, car parking and road safety, school places,
maintenance of hedgerows and ecology and dwelling heights and levels.
Whilst no
amendments have been received from the agent, further clarification to points
has been made which include the following:
With regards to
Density, the land subject to previous approval for 28 houses, currently still
has 28 houses proposed, the only changed is the additional 4 smaller properties
which have been added – 8 in an area that has permission for 4 on the south
part of the site.
Plots 5, 6, 7 and 8
are 2.5 storeys in height and positioned to the North side of Longcliff Close and whereby there is a 27 metre separation,
the dwellings have roof lights and the agent has suggested that these can be
set above 1.7metres above Finished Floor Level so they are above eye level by
way of a condition, to prevent overlooking.
The applicants have
commented that the additional 2.5 metre dwellings through the site have been
added to vary the streetscape. The eaves
line of the 2.5 storey dwelling is set just above the first floor windows which
in turn creates a room in the roof appearance.
The applicants have
offered a reduction of the roof ridge to 9.2m above ground Finished Floor Level
(by adjusting the roof pitch) on the 2.5 storey dwellings on plots 5,6,7 &
8 if members considered this coupled with the separation distance of 27 metres
would make the scheme more acceptable.
In terms of play
provision the site lies 420 metres to the play area next to the village hall
and 300 metres to the recreation ground, there is however 450m2 available space
on site for this should members wish to request this via a condition. In policy
terms this would satisfy the requirements of the policy and make up about ½ the
deficit of provision in the old Dalby ward.
In terms of
highways, the car parking, design of driveways and garages are subject to condition
all complaint with LCC Highways who raise no objection to the proposal.
Concerns have been raised regarding parking arrangements, ‘tandem parking’, but
this accord with Highways’ standards and we have no statistical evidence to
show they lead to greater on street parking.
In terms of ecology
the alterations to the layout and hedge have been necessary to provide a single
planning application that combine the 3 previous outline approvals and a more
rounded application that reads as one development.
Members raised
concern at the last committee with regards to a ditch the submitted drainage
scheme ensures that storm water will be pumped to a sewer outfall.
I would like to
remind members that the site already has the benefit of outline permission and
the majority of the site is allocated for development of 28 dwellings within
the Local Plan referenced as OLD1 and an additional permission for 7. Therefore
both the principle of the development AND of the number of houses (32) is
established. The combination of all outline permissions complete in one full
application would add a more fluid combined development demonstrating how the
scheme as a whole would work.
As such the
application is again recommended for approval subject to conditions.
(b) Cllr Kim Lee, on behalf of Broughton and Old Dalby Parish Council,
was invited to speak and stated that:
·
Concerned
about character, believed the scheme is more in tune with an urban development,
more appropriate for a town. Not sympathetic as per Policy D1.
·
Average
density 22.9 houses per hectare which is much higher than the village as a
whole.
·
Development
is too large for the village and is not in keeping.
·
Acknowledged
the Developer’s reduction to the height of houses but stated that still doesn’t
address concerns about character and size.
·
Concerned
about car parking and highways and the effect on highway infrastructure. Tandem
parking will encourage road parking. Inadequate parking for visitors which will
lead to an overspill. Neighbourhood Plan Policy H6 refers to adequate off road
parking.
·
Work
to hedgerows to be mitigated, and concerned about the footpath. ENV6 and ENV4
of Local Plan.
·
Not
in line with policy H3B of Neighbourhood Plan.
·
Deficient
in play area.
(c) Dr Sandra
Taylor, an objector, was invited to speak and stated that:
·
National
housing needs not met identified in Local Plan. 80% should be 2-3 bedroom
houses and bungalows, not 4-5 which is 36%.
·
Need
to ensure new builds are sustainable. This is not suitable for the future.
·
Quoted
C2 of Local Plan regarding accessible housing. 47% of proposal will be 2.5
storeys; this is not suitable for disabled people.
·
Parking
not up to standards.
·
Doesn’t
meet landscaping, design, visual, appearance, layout, density of building,
impact on the countryside or issue of overshadowing, Loss of outlook.
·
Fails
to commit to child play area as a largescale development.
·
Plan
is not accurate with regards to hedgerow. 7.8m and 7.5m gaps, more than half of
the existing remaining hedge.
·
Does
not adhere to Neighbourhood or Local Plan.
The Chair queried the statement made about the percentage of
2-3 bedroom homes. She stated there will be 23 out of 36.
Dr Taylor explained she was referencing the amount of 4-5
bedroom homes, not 2-3.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services sought clarification regarding the reference to the gaps in the hedge
and half being removed.
Dr Taylor indicated on the map and was excluding the part
next to the current building and that running south – north on the east site
boundary.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services sought clarification on the statement made about overshadowing.
Dr Taylor explained that she did not mean it in the sense of
casting a shadow, but the village will be overshadowed due to the land rising
up. Some houses will be 10m high. This will affect the visual view and outlook
of those living on Longcliff Close.
(d) Nick Cooper, agent for the applicant, was
invited to speak and stated that:
·
Road
layout and footpath now subject to separate s38 process.
·
Development
has been professionally reviewed and deemed compliant with policies. Should be
permitted subject to conditions.
·
Believed
there had been misleading comments made in terms of density.
·
Main
body is 28 houses; proposed 4 small additions in south east corner will not be
cramped.
·
Combined
access roads.
·
Available
to social rent and first time buyers, identified need in the Local Plan.
·
Room
in the roof design, with eaves line kept low to respect local characteristics
of the village. Dormer windows will enhance street scene.
·
Roof
lights prevent overlooking of adjacent gardens. Plots 5-8 located on the North side of Longcliff Close, cannot overshadow gardens separated by
hedgerows, a vehicular drive and is 27m away which is well in excess f the
minimum 21m
·
Development
is 412m from village play area and less than 300m from recreational ground.
There has been no request from the Parish Council.
·
Layout
mix provides variety to the street scene.
·
Buffer
and footpath retained – ecological characteristics.
·
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new starter & affordable homes.
·
Local
developer.
A Cllr questioned who would maintain the hedgerows.
Mr Cooper stated that it would be future residents as part
of the management plan.
A Cllr asked who will pay for this.
Mr Cooper replied that it would be the developer and the
purchasers of the properties.
A Cllr stated that this would be a tax on houses and smaller
homes would be hit harder.
The Solicitor to the Council explained that this is normal
practice to have this arrangement in the form of an annual service charge.
A Cllr queried whether the charges would be pro rata or one
fee for all.
The Solicitor to the Council stated that it would be
possible for it to be pro rata.
A Cllr asked if that could be conditioned.
The Solicitor to the Council replied yes it could be done.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services expressed his opinion that this development would be similar in character
to Longcliff Close and was very similar to Croft
Gardens.
A Cllr asked the Development Manager and The Assistant
Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory Services whether they had been
in direct contact with the school and expressed concerns about an increase in
cars and parking.
A Cllr explained the plans to increase the number of
classrooms, all of which will be built upon the existing car park. They
explained cars will have to go in the road and was worried about the increase
in traffic as a result of more pupils attending the school.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services stated that they had not been in direct contact and that they would
liaise with the governing body. The school has asked for money so it would be
fair to deduce that they are happy to extend.
A Cllr expressed concern regarding the site levels. The East
of the site lies at 85m above sea level and the West, 92m. 7m difference in
height regardless of the storeys. Over 30% of the development is to be 2.5
storeys (9.2m) which will be visible from miles around. They stated that the Longcliff Hill view was listed in the Neighbourhood Plan as
a preferred view and this is not acceptable.
The Chair asked if they wished to motion.
Cllr Steadman stated that with the design of the site and
the height of the buildings and density, it did not meet Policy D1 of Local
Plan or H6 of Neighbourhood Plan and proposed to refuse.
A Cllr stated that they cannot go along with density and
would prefer to speak before making a decision.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services explained that there is not dispute about the density figure. He
reminded members that 32 houses are already approved so the density of 20.38 is
fixed. An increase to 22.9 is therefore the key issue.
A Cllr stated that irrespective of density, the additional
larger dwellings are not needed.
A Cllr reiterated that they cannot go with the density.
The Chair asked Cllr Steadman if she wished to alter her
proposal.
Cllr Steadman replied that the development is not
sympathetic to the area and would be overbearing on the landscape.
The Chair asked if Cllr Steadman wished to remove density.
Cllr Steadman stated that it was rather high for a rural
area.
A Cllr explained that they must be careful in saying that
they would refuse on a view, as this is not a planning reason.
The Solicitor to the Council added that insufficient
attention was being paid to the allocation of the site for development.
Authorities deemed to be happy with the impacts e.g. highways. The additional
land is subject to Outline Planning Permission and it’s already been agreed
that it’s appropriate for development. The number has already been accepted and
is little different to the new proposal. With regards to the height, could
refusal be placed on this alone? He expressed his doubt.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services stated that the height of a house is typically around 8m. If required,
it could be limited to 9.2m.
A Cllr questioned that if there was no seconder, could they
continue.
Cllr Illingworth stated that the speaker after a proposal
needed to be seconding the motion. That had failed. He now proposed to permit
in line with Officer’s recommendations and concessions offered by the applicant
regarding the reduced height and shared space.
Cllr Faulkner seconded the proposal. He stated that there
was no legal reason to refuse.
A Cllr expressed that they were unhappy with the layout; it
would be suburbia in a village and this is not desirable. The development would
be bound to tier as it is on a gradient. They were concerned about the
management charge on smaller houses and would like to regulate.
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
Services stated that this was outside planning consideration and people would
only buy into it if they wanted to.
A Cllr expressed
concerns about the amount of cars and parking.
A Cllr stated they were not disputing planning permission,
but was unhappy with parking. They believed there would not be enough off road
parking, and car ownership is increasing.
Cllr Illingworth sought clarification on the allocation of
the site within the Local Plan. Is the Neighbourhood Plan in compliance with
the Local Plan?
The Assistant Director for Strategic Planning and Regulatory
displayed a map showing how the whole site was captured within the Limits to
Development in the Neighbourhood Plan
A Cllr stated that they were not against the principle; it’s
what is being put on it.
A Cllr asked whether the 3 adjustments suggested by LCC
Highways would be made.
The Chair stated that the points raised previously had been
investigated. LCC Highways had imposed conditions. There is a mixture of houses
and saw no reason to refuse.
A vote was taken. 5
members voted to permit. 5 members voted to refuse. The Chair had the casting vote and decided to
permit, as per her original vote.
Cllr Cumbers, Cllr
Wood, and Cllr Steadman asked for their refusal to be recorded. There was 1 abstention. Cllr Higgins asked
for his abstention to be recorded.
Determination:
Permit, subject to
(i) Completion a S.106 agreement making
for:
• Affordable housing provision;
• Open space;
• NHS contribution;
• Education contribution;
• Libraries contribution;
• Civic amenities contribution;
• A contribution to the village hall.
(as set out below).
(ii) Conditions as set out in the report
(iii) An additional
condition limiting the height of the 2.5 storey buildings to 9.2m height to
ridge level, as suggested by the applicant
18:55pm Meeting
adjourned
18:55pm Cllr
Higgins left the room
18:57pm Cllr
Higgins returned to the meeting
18:57pm Meeting
reconvened.
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